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I don't smoke, so *pulls up a lighter for other people who are joining the conversation* Violation of consent is definitely a huge problem. Even if we give consent, what about content and products that have been released on the internet ages ago? How can consent be given to those? Adobe is facing a huge problem with this. Adobe has a software that lets users generate images or videos, and Adobe used artwork that has been published on Adobe Stock to train its AI. Unfortunately, these creators probably did not consent. |
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*lights up a cigarette and also exhales smoke* I h8 the way ppl are exploiting creativity w/ AI |
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*inhales your cigarette's smoke* *cough cough* damn right you are I feel like the biggest problem of AI is how it's treated as this "necessary part" in every bit of the nowadays life.Smart fridges, watches, cars who can "kinda" drive themselves, ai music, movies, art and content.Like... WE DON'T NEED TO GET IT SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS Sure it's "revolutionary" but it doesn't have to become a part of our lifes and make us use our brains less.We don't need to "defend" it or "accept" it, we need to LIMIT it to just some domains and not let if get used in wrongful ways I mean, ai could be more useful for other shit than to make human things such as music, art or movies, or to imagine donald trump as jesus As an anecdote, my partner is disabled in such a way that asking an AI to help them do tasks has been a massive improvement in their quality of life. I don't think having an AI do a task that a person can't do even if they tried is a problem, perhaps it's actually empowering. But that's not an argument for AI as it is today. AI is expensive and there's no way my partner could afford it if it wasn't subsidised by tech companies. AI is limited in behaviour by tech companies- it will avoid subtitling words in YouTube, it will avoid describing somebody's body parts, it isn't private so it can't be used to handle sensitive documents like government documents. AI is not a tool for the disabled and people shouldn't be champion it as such. It's true that disabled people get SOME benefit from it, but that's purely accidental and more often than not this broken functionality is used to defend horrible things like Facebook's glasses that can record video. The only path forward I can see would be to have the governments fund, develop and heavily regulate AI usage. |
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Extremely well said. AI should be a choice. The only people I see loving and using AI is those who make it, and people of a middle age group bracket who really dont know the difference. Those older, dont understand it. And people of our age, know the damage. The fact every search engine or browser forces the use of AI, and puts so much in place to stop you from blocking the AI is ridiculous. You can only ever turn it off on Google for example, if they choose that you are allowed. I, as a standard user, should get that choice too. On top of that, theres a lot of misunderstanding within AI. If you generate, not create, AI art or music, you didnt actually do anything. You wrote words in a box and a computer made it. You cannot claim to have made that, or let alone own it. And those who says its inevitable, well, as long as those people think that way it is. I personally choose to not interact or view any AI content unless I have no choice. Again, as you said, consent. We cant stop greedy lazy fucks making AI systems, but aforementioned fucks should give us a choice if we use it. |
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its so disappointing that when we know all this there are still ppl who happily use ai. like i cant even imagine that level of not caring about anything "ai art is the only way people with disabilities or with no talent can create art" in response to the previous reply: i'm a disabled artist. there are so many disabled artists out there who've learned how to adapt and create something. art is probably one of the most accessible things out there! by a_verybadpun; (edited); Report just because you are talentless or disabled that shouldn't stop you from making art not everyone is suited to make art and it's okay absolutely!! it's okay to admit you suck at art instead of having to pretend. faking something you just don't have the skill or experience for is really cringe.. and i don't like using that word often by a_verybadpun; ; Report I think the past 20 years of STEMlords has rotted the brains of people to think that the point of art is to create something. That's usually the point of engineering after all, and art is just like engineering in their minds. That's why when they find a 'shortcut' to engineer something that has the visual outcome they want they feel smug and superior. But they completely fail to understand that the process is a huge part of the art. Trying to make something, failing to make something, learning more about yourself and the world, those are all just as important, probably more important, than whatever artifact you end up creating. Putting on my developer hat, it's sad seeing developers just completely misunderstand this even in the context of engineering. You need to fail to develop and learn things and AI tools don't let you do that. Finding the answer to a problem is often a journey that takes you to other places, but the AI just bypasses that. |
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For instance, real people on say, Instagram, post about the things they craft and they sell those. And then some dinglebutt decides to take their face, run it through AI and post videos where the likenesses of these people beg the viewers to kindly go on their Etsy page and buy their definitely not stolen backpack design that will certainly arrive at their house because they are very much somebody with authentic experiences of living in poverty and therefore are trustworthy for viewers to know that they won't cast a scam upon them.
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