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Keep in mind, change doesn't come gradually. We humans are made to fit into the environment, so you need to change that first, in order to actually see changes in yourself.



it's not really possible to change your environment, at least in my case. a rat in a cage cannot change his environment in any meaningful sense. 

by teuton; ; Report

It is absolutely possible to change your environment. In so many senses. Take work or a parttime job for example, school. Your online environment is also an environment. You are limiting yourself and thats why you feel trapped. It is because of yourself.

by Wiredoomed; ; Report

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i understand

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Life is bittersweet.

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Me and you are very similar on this matter, ive also always been an outcast because of my weirdness. Godspeed you.

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I can understand socialising is hard, it is for me too. The core point in dating is if you view women also as humans not as a thing you own and willing to unlearn some things you were socialised with. Also respect if somone has no interest in dating. I see so many (incel-)guys on the internet, who don't have any respect and assume just because they were nice in the beginning, that the counterpart owns them a relationship. They do not. I don't go against anyones religious belives, but please be aware on which side of christianity you go. If you're more on a fundamentalist side, please also be aware that that might scare away some women, because what I saw from these type of christs, they are mostly the intolerantest ones and are not respectful agains anyone. 


Also maybe try to go outside to more quieter spaces, like libraries. Or get yourself good noice cancelling phones and try to sit outside in a park. Also if you don't love yourself, which is hard when you got bullied for a long time, you have it harder to find a relationship. Maybe therapy in that way could help, with finding your inner peace and maybe it can also help with how to socialise. The internet is cool af, but try to live outside of it too. Good luck in university, maybe there are also some nd folks you can try to connect? It's more acceptal between ND folks to trauma dump to form a friendship than with the 'normal' people. 

Best wishes, Cel



if you think christianity is the problem youre no better than any hypergamous foid. Atheism is just an excuse to be immoral because "god doesn't exist and he won't judge me in the afterlife".

by feralschizoid; ; Report

I never said the religion christianity itself is the problem, BUT one type of christians called fundamentalists (I personally like to call them MAGA christs) or in general very very conservative christs are mostly the problem because they have a very big tendency to believe that women (and minorities) are worth lesser than the standard white, straight man. Please game up your reading literacy and on paper I'm christian too ;) so don't shoot against atheists because they don't need an imaginary, old white man to tell them how the world's functioning

by _c3L_1105; (edited); Report

so youre christian but believe god is an imaginary old white man?? well well well 🤡

by feralschizoid; ; Report

and you like theology but can't apparently question your own religion and are not able to discuss this and lack of reading comprehension? well, well, well 🤡

by _c3L_1105; ; Report

i have questioned many times my faith, but in the end my supposition always turned out to be false. Human morality is based on christianity, thats why we don't see sacrificing children as normal, we don't see murdering someone as normal, we don't see cheating on your partner as normal. Atheism is the destruction of the morality we are based on, any atheist who thinks he know whats good and whats bad has the normal human morality, which is christian. If we dissasembled christian morality from society, then i could just murder you because it's not objectivly bad, since theres no objective morality.

by feralschizoid; ; Report

umm if you need a religion for your morals that's fine ig, but to say that every atheists moral is based purely on atheism is bullshit in my eyes. You don't need god to know it's wrong to kill someone, also what's with other countries that have a different religion? Are their morals also then based on christianity? I don't think so. In my opinion you need basic empathy for morals, not some passages in a book based 2000 years ago. 

by _c3L_1105; ; Report

"basic human empathy" in our world is based on christianity, in all of it. In fact uncontacted tribes have vastly different morals from us, many of them still practicing child sacrifice.

by feralschizoid; ; Report

Okay so this is my last take on this topic, because this discussion is going about from one sentence in my original comment, which had a completely different topic, than what you are focusing on: 


basic human empathy is not based purely on christianity. 

because humans had morals before judaism, christianity, islamism, buddhim and any other religion. They were probably different than ours today, but other countries have different morals even to this day. 

These ground morals, that even children have before they can assosicate themselves with any religion, are influenced by culture and religion. Not because we have a religion we have these morals. 

One of the main morals in christianity, regardless which type of christian you are (catholic, protestantic, fundamentalistic, etc.) is that you should love thy neighbour regardless of how they act, look, etc. Why did we have slavery then in the name of god? War in gods name? That's not very moral of humans is it? 

In the beginning of moses they sacrificed lambs, young goats (basically child goats), so that's not very good moral too, it is practically child sacrificing too. So the beginnings of christianity couldn't have been very moral, after your argument, right?


And only because somones christian, or in general religous, they do not neccessarily have good morals, so why do I need to be christian for? Also saying christianity is the top of religions disminishes the other ones I mentioned (these religiouns have morals too you know, also influenced through culture and these religiouns influence people too y'know). 


So if you want to read the stuff I did on this discussion journey feel free to check them out: 

https://medium.com/@RationalBadger/where-does-morality-come-from-6f0d41c069a5 (more of a commentary, no linked sources)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4345965/ (science article, have not read it completealy but still interesting.)


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