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In the past month, Sony announced that in 2028 they'll stop printing physical media for videogames, citing bullshit reasons like consumers preferring digital over physical releases. 


People are once again calling for a "blackout" as if that will do anything, plus it's unlikely that enough people will participate. Last time, people announced a boycott on Sony, all it took was for Activision to release ports of 14 year old Call of Duty games to stop, which by they way were sold digitally.


Now there's a separate argument for the validity and the merit of physical media. However, when it comes to videogames, you don't actually own your physical games, not unless we're talking about the sixth generation of consoles, you own what videogame companies say you own. 


Take this few examples:


Last week, someone managed to revive the WWE 2k14 servers on PS3, this made me excited but there was one huge problem, I bought it second hand a few years ago and back then THQ, 2K, EA and many others had the brilliant idea to lock gamers who bought their games used to lock them out from accessing the online features of a game, the problem is I can no longer buy an online access code, so basically I have to jailbreak my PS3, even though I own a legit copy of the game. 


A lot telltale games physical releases have become glorified demos, you can't purchase the episodes anymore, the only way to play those games without pirating them is to buy the overpriced season pass discs or the overpriced codes on shady sites like g2a.


I'm old enough to remember when Capcom would put characters behind a paywall and then pretended they were DLC but dataminers found out the files were in the actual discs, nothing was being downloaded and they did this with Street Fighter x Tekken and Marvel vs Capcom 3. Hell, they put Asura's Wrath true ending behind a paywall, although this time it was actual DLC.


I could keep citing more examples but perhaps the most egregious one is The Crew by Ubisoft. Because everyone who bought that game, wether physically or digitally, now own a mediocre paperweight at best and absolutely nothing at worst since Ubisoft never bothered adding offline modes, even though dataminers have found there are references to said modes in the files, but they were too busy losing money on Assassin's Creed part 87: the black samurai and who knows what trash, I don't really pay attention to them.


Lots of PC software have activation limits.


Even blu-rays aren't safe, your PS3 if you own one, needs to update once a year to get new encryption keys to able to play new releases, but there's no law that says Sony has to keep updating it, one day they could just easily stop and one day their remaining PS3 servers could shut down and your PS3's CMOS battery will eventually die, at that point you'll only be able to use it jailbroken. As it stands now, the only way to truly own something is by pirating it. 


So if you really want to stop companies like Sony from getting away with this, you should instead focus your energy on the Stop Killing Games initiative because only legislation might stop companies from labeling leases as purchases, specially because they've been targeted by lobbies like the ESA. And if enough countries put pressure on this companies, well finally be able to own our goods, wether physically or digitally.


Also, check out alternative platforms like GOG and Zoom Platform, as they offer game releases without DRM protection, so you can install as many times as you want, burn to a CD/DVD or send them to a friend.

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nothing is forever. remember when everyone thought all of your digital footprint would be permanent and then sites started shutting down?

yeah, i think thats an unfortunate thing people have to accept eventually. we're entering a digital age where physical things are pretty much rendered useless now. from games to music to books, it doesn't help that physical media is way more expensive than digital so it's no wonder everyone sticks to it

@amber That's not always true to be fair! There are times where the digital media costs more than the physical so there's that hole in your argument although there's always a exception to that sort of thing

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@aheartoffire1996 To be fair, you both have a point - if physical and digital are sold in tandem, then the physical will naturally be more expensive because of the need to manufacture the game storage device (be it a disk or a cartridge or what have you), manufacture the box, print the cover art, pay someone to do the back of the box, ship everything over, etc.; if everything's digital-only, however, then that gives the developers and the publishing companies free reign over the price, and could drive it up by however much they want, whenever they like. Admittedly I much prefer the former, but hopefully, even if PlayStation end up sticking to that digital-only pledge they've just made, they won't go too off the walls with the pricing (I have a feeling they will, but one can pray).

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I'd extend it to everything off-streaming, including digital downloads in the face of streaming. You cannot beat the convenience, and physical media is mainly just for the vibes. That said I think there is still something special about physical and downloaded media, makes it feel more curated, more of an occasion - a deliberate choice to watch or listen instead of mindlessly skipping through. Curated playlists do match that somewhat, but to me, it's still not quite the same... especially when something disappears from the playlist, out of my control. I already feel old saying that 😂


Edit: missed it being in the games category, but the idea still applies there too

I'm old! 😄

I'm so out of the loop with today's times and ways. I mean I still hve a 2005 Chrysler 300 that has a CD player in it. I do still own a few CDs and play them in my car but mostly listen to the radio or find a good 70's or 80's long recording of a playlist that somebody uploaded to youtube on my bluetooth speaker when partying at my buddy's house.

Do bands even make and sell CDs anymore?  Are MP3 players  and iPods still even a thing?  How do bands make money with their music anymore? Is it all just digital mp3 downloads now?  

This really sucks because I remember when vinyl 33 records were the big thing and it was so exciting and cool to actually go to a record store and dig around and buy your favorite band's albums then bring them home and play them on your record player and be amazed at the cool artwork on the album covers and inside the record covers. 

It must suck for the band and their fans now having nothing cool to physically hold in their hands. Sometimes we used to even cut the album covers up and tack them on our walls with pushpins as to show off our favorite bands to our friends when they came over to listen to the albums together.


@SafeInSanity [citation needed], of course, but I understand it's still mostly merch sales instead of streaming. And I've seen a lot of CDs still on sale for newer releases as well, vinyls too. Streaming doesn't really pay that much; a few dollars for a thousand streams ain't that much, even when you got millions of them.

@Cordell

Telling an older individual citation needed is very disrespectful just saying. There are vinyls still being made CD still being made MP3s are coming back like Gen Z is trying to turn the tide a bit but I don't know if it's going to work be nice if it did but most of time for newer media the digital is cheaper unfortunately. Shoot even Black veil brides has a couple vinyls out there for sale on their website and I'm pretty sure some record stores have newer vinyls too. We're just in a weird spot right now is all
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@aheartoffire1996 The 'but' implied that I was saying that about my own following statement.

from my personal experience,, yeah!! CDs are for sure being sold by artists,,,,, one example being Linkin Park!!!! i got Meteora for like $15-20 i think 😇😇

i've got a car with a CD player,, bought my own personal CD player recently,, became the new owner of my mom's old iRiver MP3 player,, and i started cutting out my favorite album covers and putting them on my walls!!!!!! i genuinely love old shit dude

@☆★cosmic!! (#1 silly guy)★☆ Heck yeah, I recently managed to snag the Meteora 20th Anniversary CDs recently myself, can't wait for it to arrive

@☆★cosmic!! (#1 silly guy)★☆ Bandcamp also seems to go to the artists for those unable to get physical media. Some artists also sell their CDs, vinyls and cassette tapes there, for those wanting physical media. 

Maybe MySpace was all the friends we made along the way.

I highly support Stop Killing Games. Honestly I really don't want to let go of physical media or live in this new age where you own nothing, but at least I can preserve what I still have. To make up for what I lost over the years and for my lack of space to hold more games and consoles, I go to the wonderful world of emulation.

keep on dreaming ☁️

i want to own things, if the data is on a physical cartridge they can't take it from me completely unless they show up to my door and rip it from my hands. if the data is all digital they can take literally all of it from me whenever they want and that's the thing, they preach capitalism and private property but they don't want anyone to own anything, especially not technology. they want everything on the cloud so they can control all of it. sorry to go off the rails in the video game forum

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