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If you have grown up in a different environment, do you believe you would have ended up the same way as you are now?

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 For a majority of my life I grew up in a very small suburb town where everyone knew everybody. Mainly due to the fact that I was visibly different and very shy, I never had a good time in any social environment. Now, as an adult, I am trying my best to fix how I was perceived but old habits die hard. 


But do you believe you would have ended the same way regardless of where you were born or how you were raised?

i think i’d be a decently different person if i grew up with different circumstances or in a different area! if i had my same parents i believe id hold the same beliefs but id probably have different interests, given events happen because of your surroundings (at least that’s what i believe) If i were born in a city or a very quiet quiet area i think id be pretty different. i’m not overly loud and i like to think im a thoughtful person. i dont think thats seen often in city atmospheres (in my experience) given the lifestyle many people in cities live. they have to be more self serving(?) and focused on themselves first. environments are very influential on people!

list of thing that wouldve been different about me if i grew up in a progressive city environment:

-less of a doomer

-wouldve came out a long time ago

-would probably have a bunch of friends irl

-would have a less thick accent



i think about this all the time.

i like to think that i think my own way most of the time, and despite growing up in a predominantly conservative household and environment, i'm proudly (closeted) genderfluid, and think the things that i do because i challenged myself to challenge everything i was ever taught..

maybe i am the way that i am because of pure rebellion. maybe i am the way that i am because of my own intellect.
would i find the need to rebel against an environment that supported me? would i need to make myself think outside of the box if im comfortable in the box i was given?

Definitely not. I probably would’ve found out similar things about myself in different lives, but I believe that personality stems from environment. I would’ve never been the type of person I am now if my parents were rich or I were born in a different country. I might’ve been less political, artsy, less rebellious, but I am what I am.

I suppose if my parents were right for each other and they were actually there for me and the circumstances of trauma weren’t there, I’d be a completely different person in every which way. Maybe I would’ve cared more for school and my music taste would be different. I’d probably be more outgoing/social and probably boring… but oh well, I suppose things are meant to happen for some twisted reason. I wouldn’t trade my life or me for the world though :D 

Material conditions shape us into the people we are. They are everyones master, so naturally it would all be different.

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Probably still end up having the same interest as I do now but I definitely would have a been a whole different person if I was raised in a different environment like not being bullied or being neglected 

of course I would as would everyone else, I think its stupid for people to think that they are anything else but products of their environment and what they are exposed to. atleast personality wise

of course. we're all the same at the very beginning aside from all of the factors that decide who we are after the fact.

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I agree but I wouldn't say "all the same". Each and everyone still has it's own unique DNA and it's own different biological predispositions.

I think I might be slightly different, and I might come to all the ideas and conclusions in my head differently, but I’d get to them at some point. If I grew up in a heavily religious family surrounded by friends of the same religious caliber I could have grown up homophobic, but I trust myself to reach the conclusion I have in my head right now: Love is love.

I have faith in me!

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Nature over nurture. i think there are inherent biological and cosmic forces that make you, you. 
We are thrown into the world and must accept our fate. 
the conditions of where you live will shape and flavor that core but the core remains, 

to expand on my previous comment here is an excerpt from a web page that I agree with

Thrownness

“You either have heritage, or you are nothing.”

Heidegger's term for the unchosen conditions into which you are born: ancestors, tongue, customs, land. Heritage is the bedrock of identity.

Thrownness refers to the fact that you are thrown into the world, descended from particular ancestors at a particular time and place, given your mother tongue, moral intuitions, customs, and genetics. Your heritage is fundamentally what makes you you, and it is entirely unchosen.

The liberal rejects heritage, replacing organic identity with propositional identity. For the liberal, you are what you believe. The folkish worldview sees propositional identity for what it is: weak. An identity you can be argued into, you can just as easily be argued out of. It binds only so long as the individual feels like being bound.

The original meaning of "freedom" was not unboundedness but belonging to a common stock. To be free was to belong to something; in fact, to be unable to be rid of it. Real authenticity just is thrownness.




So in my opinion if this different environment involved being a different race then yes absolutely you would have ended up different, but a person of the same blood regardless of where they live will have an ancestral code to follow. Not following that code is what leads to so many mental conditions

There are certainly parts of myself that wouldn't change regardless of the environment, it's how badly a different upbringing would impact my growth. It's like... what would happen if you raised a plant in your bedroom versus in a massive arboretum. It's still the same plant, so that doesn't change, but it's quality of life would. 

I'd have the same brain. I'd still be autistic and trans, but how it's nurtured would be different. 

I think I'd still be drawn to certain things, but my reaction to them would be different. I'd love art and science and philosophy, but which became my main interest might change. 

I cant imagine not being alt, I fell in love with that regardless of support. Perhaps the kind would be different based on support or ability.

I guess theres a variety of things I may be exposed to that I'd love more, or things I might not encounter that would be missing though!

I feel like my relationships around guilt, shame, intimacy and anger (or feelings generally) would be totally different! 

The core parts of me that are influenced by others would change, I'm sure, but I imagine those are more replaceable by other similar things (maybe I have different favorite songs or games, but I think I'd still like the same genres, perhaps with different foci).

two things awe me most: the starry sky above me, and the moral law within me"

eh.. really dont think so (;^ω^)was sheltered all of childhood due to illness , which is why im the shy way i am about going outside much .. i would be a very different person! maybe more normal.. but , to be honest , being normal does not sound fun to me , am happy about the way i was raised . even if it sounds crazy (;・∀・)

yep. this is just my brain

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I think my personality would have been more or less the same. My father has a very similar personality to mine and we grew up in very different environments: he grew up in the countryside and he was enlisted as a young man, I grew up in the city and had some education, yet we share a very similar personality.

Personally I think environment and genes are two sides of the same coin and you can't exactly separate them

This is a question of the classic "nature vs nurture", though I don't like it being phrased that way. Both play a significant role in how we develop. Nature dictates the broad range of tools we start with, but nurture determines what tools are allowed to develop and be expressed. Circumstance plays a big role in what talents we're allowed to develop, so it wouldn't be extraordinary to believe you'd be better in some areas if you were given the right circumstance. Then again, it's not productive thinking about how you would have gotten a better shake of things if things were different, since its not like you're locked off forever from what you could have developed, its only a factor of when you develop them.

All of this is just my opinion though as a psych student, amongst other things.

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i get really frustrated over nature vs nurture in the way that certain struggles sometimes never feel like my own. i feel like nature vs nurture means i'm carrying some sort of weight distributed to me through the family, so i never take any actual hardship of mine serious. then on the flip side, i really reject the idea entirely. like i really feel that i raised myself so turning out the way i did is a product of me and not my environment. 

i do get stuck sometimes on the wishful thinking of like "if i had just been in this kind of family and this kind of town, maybe i would have turned out more like that and less like this." but i am who i am because i made myself this way. i think i could have learned how to be a person from anywhere. i'm still learning, we all are. and that's really cool 

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