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Mike, Jen, and The Stoned Age

I had asked in the last week what I should write about, as far as blog post topics should go.

Apart from some rather wonderful compliments that amounted to 'write anything!' which were terribly heartwarming, but not terribly e lightening, I'm afraid, there was a couple of helpful suggestions! (and please, suggest more).

One did intrigue me.

โธธโธธโธธ๐•ถ๐–Ž๐–‘๐–‘๐–Œ๐–†๐ณ๐–’๐–”๐–™๐–—๐–”๐–“โธธโธธโธธย asked that since I'm old, and all, what were the 80s 'really' like.

That's a hard question as it can be too big or too small depending how you look at it, and I'm having trouble deciding what to write about.

After all, not everyone had the 'same' 80s. I had a friend ... Straight edge skater punk who moved to Ohio around 1990. He wrote to us (np cell phones, and using the landline long distance was costly so it better be dang important!) and told us that the trend of bright neon colors was only just reaching there ๐Ÿ˜…ย 

So it's hard to write about the topic. I mean, maybe BECAUSE I 'lived' through it, it doesn't seem particularly worth remembering unless I trot out how O felt about the historic events of the day, or one of those endless nostalgia type posts about toys, music, and TV that no one really cares about when old people drone on and on about the 'good old days' or whenever an old person thought they were cool.

Well, I guess the first thing to remember is that every guy I went to school with was named "Mike".

Every dang one.

Additionally, every other girl was named "Jen".

All of them. Literally.ย 

Anyway, PART of what Killy asked referred to his curiosity about if films 'get it right' when looking back on the 80s.

I dunno ...

No.

Not really.

Like most films - even serious ones - that are period pieces look 'off'. One thing I always notice is the cars. In a film set in - say - 1955. They are very good at filling the background with cars from 1955.

Trouble is, they all look brand new. Perfectly all restored, and all precisely 1955. In 'real' 1955, people drove hulking rusted wrecks just as much as the proud new vehicles of the day.ย 

When I was young in the 80s, I never had a vehicle actually MADE in the 80s.

So did any films get it right?

Okay, maybe.

Being a kid in the 70s was perfectly well captured by the Bad News Bears (the original one. The 1970s one). It was supposed to be a shocking comedy the way the kids spoke and acted. These days, it's probably just shocking. But of you LIVED through it, damn. If you're really watching, and not just out of nostalgia, damn.

The kids seemingly have no parents. They fight, face bullies, play, swear, and sort out their lives with one another by raw 'working it out'. And with each kid, you get a pretty good idea just what their home lives are like, and for many of them, not great. Even for kids like me, with loving parents and a great upbringing, my parents never hovered over me, curated my time, interests, or social life. They loved me enough to let me figure it out!

So, we fast forward a few years to the 80s.

It's cheesy, it's often cited, but "The Breakfast Club" get the bullshit high school factions right.

And every high school age dirtbag like Bender in the age before security cameras, recordings, and fell phones were everywhere literally had some teacher physically threaten them at one point or another.

The film even gets right that sometimes odd friendships would develop between faction members if stuck in an isolating situation.

Of course, they seldom lasted.ย 

The last film I'd like to cite is the one 'retrospective' movie.

Released in 1993, "Dazed and Confused" was set in 1976 and heralded as a great look back at teen life from that time.

I don't know. Maybe. It struck me as a contrived nostalgia piece. Watchable film. Had its enjoyments, but ... contrived.

I think the better film, and perhaps the one that more accurately captures the times was a 1994 film called "The Stoned Age" set in 1980.ย 

Saturday night. Nothing to do. Nowhere to go. You and your friend cruise around like dirtbags in your dirtbag car listening to your favorite music (and arguing over it) and stopping by the regular dirtbag hangouts hoping that something is going on.

I know all of that sounds bitter, but you know what?

It was GLORIOUS! Whether you were little in the 70s with no parental supervision or wandering aimlessly through the pre-videogame wastelands of suburbia hoping someone was throwing a party somewhere, hoping to meet a potential romantic interest, and having no particular place to go or to be.ย 

Although it may seem directionless, that space ... that circumstantial boredom it was led to big dreams, big talks until the sun came up, big jams, and big stories.

Maybe I'll tackle the news events of the times in some other blog post.ย 

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Im intrigued on breakfast club getting it right. i felt even to some degree it could have been my early middle school environment in some places. though the models did some changing.ย 
I often wonder what todays HONEST breakfast club would be. not dominated by a single idea, but an honest portrayal of the environment today and where idea clash between apposing "types" in todays highschool, if thats even really a thing anymore.ย 
maybe someone even younger than us, then another even younger than them might chime in here xD.ย 

I figured it must have hit some kind of lived in experience though given that movies almost religious status among some.ย 

I also wondered about what you mentioned with your friend, how what we see today is like this cartoon version of what was really only in the biggest most hip cities of the time, and if it was like when i was a real young kid,
It didnt reach the outskirts for a while, and while it was 1986 In LA, it was probably still 1978 in gary indiana. lol.ย 
From my toddler youth into young childhood, it was the early 90s.ย 
but for me, grunge was very far away.ย 
out in the boonies it was still kinda 1989 but with 1995 on the big television set.
that was probably from 1989.
And my mom was driving a 78 z28 camaro. lol



I think the universal experience for suburban dirtbags from the mid 70s through the mid 90s was much more akin to The Stoned Age than any of the other works citedย 

by Cranky Old Witch; ; Report

One thing to point out about The Breakfast Club.

This is set in Shermer Illinois in 'present day' (1985).

Molly Ringwald's character pulls out a bento box of sushi for her lunch.

The reaction is quite real. No one comments on it but Bender, but sushi outside of the west coast at that time was practically unheard of.

Her character pulling it out at a high school detention was seemingly pretentious and buji.ย 

I can ever recall when a sushi place first became a 'thing' in my neck of the woods, and we're only about an hour or less outside of NYC.

Sushi is almost as common as pizza by now.ย 

by Cranky Old Witch; ; Report

yeah sushi, it had a slow rise, but late 90s on an explosion because of the explosion of otaku culture in the west. anime and such. i have distinct memory of before and after that boom.ย 
Of when it was weird if i saw wicked city and then just a few years later that was poser newbie shit lol.ย 
But yeah last decade it seams, sushi in america has really exploded.ย 
seams to have come in large spurts. like it was nowhere, then it was niche popular in a sort of fancy coffee shop cosmopolitan yuppie way but now everyone knew what it was and every big city had it somehwere,ย 
to now as you said, Anime hit the west hard and now its as american as corndogs.ย 

it is a unique experience whenever i watch something of an era like that and see that. the different meaning at the time something completely innocuous now could have.
How it was a signal of her being on the fashionable cutting edge of cosmopolitan metro fashion etc (whatever terms apply idk ive been a dirtball metalhead since birth lol)ย 
at the time.ย 
little things like that when i notice them just give me a little weird pleasant feeling. like emotional archeology.ย 

Its like in 12 angry men and i see how very different the bathrooms were in the 50s, and that weird roll up dry cloth dispenser that rolled up into itself that was the main thing before paper towels.ย ย 

by โธธโธธโธธ๐•ถ๐–Ž๐–‘๐–‘๐–Œ๐–†๐ณ๐–’๐–”๐–™๐–—๐–”๐–“โธธโธธโธธ; ; Report