Not a serious one though, I just need y'all's opinions. :))
They usually focus on one aspect they just recently learned about rather than being able to consistently talk about an even spread of aspects of something
Strip your EXIF
They hate on people who are new to the style/music and act like they know everything abt it
If they're in -it- for the fashion.
Worship Me -- I am dead
@Kommando Mutiliid Real. And knows zero info about politics
If the bands they like are popular on tiktok
If they list bands but cant name their early albums.
identifying and calling out posers is an important part of properly gatekeeping a healthy subculture.
never be afraid to gatekeep.
recognize there is a difference between being new and chasing trends, its obvious to anyone smart enough to tell the difference
@ᛉ Silver ᛣ
Grausamkeit/Blod Besvimelse and their consequences
Worship Me -- I am dead
they say they aren't new but their bands are the more popular ones and they can't even name 1 underground band.
they care too much about what other people think so they overcompensate, whether it's through hyping up the same beginner level artists, focusing too much on fashion/attire, and they either over prioritize or have 0 awareness/interest in historical context behind how a scene they claim to be part of came to be
if their personality is based around how many niche bands they can name, or if their main focus is calling other people posers.
they're so bitter all the time, always putting everybody else down about what they like or don't like. lighten up !!
what is a poser, really? sometimes people who fear rejection get excited about a new thing and feel they need to constantly justify their interests, some people feel they have to puff their chest as a defense mechanism against their feelings of anxiety and inadequacy within a new community, and usually it's the people who disparage this behavior that cause it by enforcing the weird, unspoken rule some communities have that people need permission or a prerequisite amount of experience/fixation to enjoy or dislike new things
when people instead reject the idea that they or anyone else needs permission to enjoy or dislike things & that they need to be well-seasoned or maintain a certain level of tunnel vision to be valid enough in a music or fashion community, they are free to calibrate themselves uniquely and enjoy a variety of things however and to whichever extents they please... ironically, expression like this tends to be held in highest esteem and uplifts people out of anything resembling "poser" behavior, but some communities really push people away when they force people to swim against currents of hate and evaluation for a long time before they're considered valid enough to be accepted
@(m)tropy you are the coolest person here for this
@(m)tropy This... exactly... I hate the idea of gatekeeping and constantly calling people out for being fake fans of something.
That said, although it doesn't have to be something we judge or alienate people for, my first thought was that I can tell when someone isn't really that into what they're talking about, or hasn't been following it for very long, is when they pronounce something wrong that is a key part of said fandom. Like once I was watching news highlights from a baseball game, and the reporter mispronounced the name of one of the team's big stars (although I don't remember who it was now). Or when people trying to fit in use a word or pronunciation that is well known not be used by locals. I read a news story once where some police officers in Berkeley were searching for a suspect from out of the area, and they overheard someone call the city on the other side of the bay "Frisco," and that was how they identified the suspect. Or something like that.
@Greg (DGS) I try not to fixate on pronunciations much as a sign of fake interest, I've met people who did this simply b/c they were more isolated socially and only ever listened to an artist on spotify or read about something, they never talked about it out loud or with someone
the using a word that locals don't use reminds me of when I first moved to California and was promptly lectured by my first group of friends there, they informed me it was cringe and touristy to call it "Cali" lmao, but hey, we have to do and say stuff wrong at first sometimes to get the correction and learn!
knew someone who pronounced the word facade "fuh-KAYDE" because although they were well read and written, they weren't social so that's how they'd pronounced it in their head all those years, we both had a giggle
@(m)tropy that's a fair point about pronunciation. Like when people learn a word by reading, not by hearing it. And yes, no one calls it Cali, at least not in my part of California. I had never heard that word until I was 18 and meeting people on the Internet in other states for the first time.
When they say ___ isn't political! Expeicially when people claim goth, punk, etc are not political. When during Covid old folks were complaining that Rage Against the Machine had gone "woke". Or people just doing things for quick fashion but also make fun of anyone who looks different but not their "cool" different.
But in the end, anyone can enjoy what they want, no rules. Just be respectful to one another. Take care of each other and be kind and that's all that actually matters
depends on the subculture tbh.
out of the two that I am most currently active in:
Gabber: people who tell other gabbers that they're "posers" or that theyre not "gabber" enough. its an oxymoron. if youre antifa & not a racist piece of shit and like dutch hardcore (NOT shit like femtanyl or sewerslvt), ur a gabber. simple as that. it was never meant to be a competition and ppl trying to cause infighting for no reason other than attention are the true posers.
Scene: when they call the subculture an "inherently political" subculture. shows me that those mfs have not actually done any research into it other than beyond the surface level cuz the MySpace scene just about as fatphobic, ableist, and racist as mainstream 2000s society (why do you think it was called a "poser" subculture by punks and emos!?). its one of the most well-documented 2000s subcultures; wayback machine, edramatica, and stickydrama are at your fingertips.
and ofc, as to any subculture, overusing the poser label and affixing it on anyone that threatens their ego.
I have multiple things
When they immidiately turn into the style like from one day to another they start wearing different clothes and makeup and listen to the most popular songs of the subculture
Im sorry but fast fashioners also,and i dont mean BUT I HAVE A COOL BRACELET FROM TEMU, I mean ppl who actually buy everything from there, for ex jeans and shoes and stuff. Thats just an ick for me like buy 2 high quality jeans in the thrift rather than buying 10 low quality ones for a few $.
Their personality changes in a wrong way, they start to get mean and act like the basic friends are not even friends anymore.
When they say that like OMG IM SO EMO idk why thats also an ick at me, thats not what emos say all the time xd
And lastly but not least when they dont try new things in their "style", they only wear the basic things so like i had a friend who claimed shes emo but she wore fast fashion every day, flare and BAGGY jeans, a belt, random shirt and a cross necklace. Blud💔
So yeah i think thats all but Im thinking about other obvious signs, tell me if you disagree in smth
when they talk about it on a superficial level, but i don't think it's anything bad or harmful to any community/fandom
You must be logged in to reply.