Not a serious one though, I just need y'all's opinions. :))
Not a serious one though, I just need y'all's opinions. :))
They usually focus on one aspect they just recently learned about rather than being able to consistently talk about an even spread of aspects of something
They hate on people who are new to the style/music and act like they know everything abt it
If they're in -it- for the fashion.
@Kommando Mutiliid Real. And knows zero info about politics
If the bands they like are popular on tiktok
If they list bands but cant name their early albums.
identifying and calling out posers is an important part of properly gatekeeping a healthy subculture.
never be afraid to gatekeep.
recognize there is a difference between being new and chasing trends, its obvious to anyone smart enough to tell the difference
Grausamkeit/Blod Besvimelse and their consequences
they say they aren't new but their bands are the more popular ones and they can't even name 1 underground band.
they care too much about what other people think so they overcompensate, whether it's through hyping up the same beginner level artists, focusing too much on fashion/attire, and they either over prioritize or have 0 awareness/interest in historical context behind how a scene they claim to be part of came to be


if their personality is based around how many niche bands they can name, or if their main focus is calling other people posers.
what is a poser, really? sometimes people who fear rejection get excited about a new thing and feel they need to constantly justify their interests, some people feel they have to puff their chest as a defense mechanism against their feelings of anxiety and inadequacy within a new community, and usually it's the people who disparage this behavior that cause it by enforcing the weird, unspoken rule some communities have that people need permission or a prerequisite amount of experience/fixation to enjoy or dislike new things
when people instead reject the idea that they or anyone else needs permission to enjoy or dislike things & that they need to be well-seasoned or maintain a certain level of tunnel vision to be valid enough in a music or fashion community, they are free to calibrate themselves uniquely and enjoy a variety of things however and to whichever extents they please... ironically, expression like this tends to be held in highest esteem and uplifts people out of anything resembling "poser" behavior, but some communities really push people away when they force people to swim against currents of hate and evaluation for a long time before they're considered valid enough to be accepted

@(m)tropy you are the coolest person here for this
@(m)tropy This... exactly... I hate the idea of gatekeeping and constantly calling people out for being fake fans of something.
That said, although it doesn't have to be something we judge or alienate people for, my first thought was that I can tell when someone isn't really that into what they're talking about, or hasn't been following it for very long, is when they pronounce something wrong that is a key part of said fandom. Like once I was watching news highlights from a baseball game, and the reporter mispronounced the name of one of the team's big stars (although I don't remember who it was now). Or when people trying to fit in use a word or pronunciation that is well known not be used by locals. I read a news story once where some police officers in Berkeley were searching for a suspect from out of the area, and they overheard someone call the city on the other side of the bay "Frisco," and that was how they identified the suspect. Or something like that.
@Greg (DGS) I try not to fixate on pronunciations much as a sign of fake interest, I've met people who did this simply b/c they were more isolated socially and only ever listened to an artist on spotify or read about something, they never talked about it out loud or with someone
the using a word that locals don't use reminds me of when I first moved to California and was promptly lectured by my first group of friends there, they informed me it was cringe and touristy to call it "Cali" lmao, but hey, we have to do and say stuff wrong at first sometimes to get the correction and learn!
knew someone who pronounced the word facade "fuh-KAYDE" because although they were well read and written, they weren't social so that's how they'd pronounced it in their head all those years, we both had a giggle

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