Yesterday there was yet another “FriendRewind uses AI” post. Quite frankly, I am sick of hearing about it lmao. Def3ct has said multiple times that there is no AI here.
If y’all hate it here so bad, go back to Spacehey with the other three users still left🥴
But if you do that, you should probably give this a read first👀
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@♠︎John K Callender♠︎ Feel free to do some research on the plethora of issues that AI datacenters are causing and you may then understand why people are “crybabying” about it. ✌️
@Cordell This is exactly what happened to me about a month ago. Went to Spacehey first, requested an invite, never got it. I saw people talking about FR as an alternative and signed up here instead. It was a blessing in disguise because I didn't end up getting invested in a dying site.
I took it as my opportunity to update and "tweak" the blogs. I also deleted two that are no longer relevant.
@Callieforniiaa_ As far as I'm aware, it doesn't have an app, but in my experience, it is fully usable with a mobile browser
@Cordell yes they sadly dont have an app. Im wondering how far this site will go and what will happen when myspace relaunches though. Kinda sucks to see Hey space have an app but not Friend Rewind. Yes it use usable on mobile browsers but not the same imo
@Callieforniiaa_ Personally, I don't mind, the functionality seems to be all there, I can scroll forums and blogs all I want 😊 I find it kinda refreshing, actually, not to need an app. Other sites would make the mobile site annoying just to push the app...
@Cordell Im trying to stick to the desktop version for the authentic old school exp. maybe using the web version thru a phone with a physical keyboard would be better imo. Im looking at getting one soon. I agree about not pushing people towards and app but it is nice to have for those who want it.
@♠︎John K Callender♠︎
I get much of what you're saying. You're comfortable with various levels of mediation existing between you and your final products. However, some demand creators employ zero levels of mediation, or at least use those tools that don't employ AI, and I believe that's where the debate over AI usage begins.
For the record, I am a writer by trade, and I strive to keep my use of AI as close to zero as I can. However, even grammar checkers employ AI now, so I can't entirely avoid AI usage. Similarly, I am a blogger in my personal life, and not only do I need reliable grammar checking, but I also need at least one free image from sites like Pixabay.com or Pexels.com for each article. Many of the images on those sites were created through the use of AI, and though I often succeed in locating a non-AI image, there are times when the best image found—the one that closest relates to my work—is of AI origin.
I am obviously not an image creation expert. No, I am an employer of the written word and an advocate for human-generated writing. I pore over the text I create knowing that an AI could achieve the same task with far greater speed, but using one would yield a product that is bereft of the emotion, pacing changes, punctuation variations, specific word choices, and other aspects that are the hallmarks of human-generated text. In short, my creations—though well done—will only be as perfect that I, as an imperfect being, can make them. Conversely, an AI will create textbook-perfect text, but the cost in having that is the human element. AI is a tool, and we need tools, but we don't need tools that replace us.
The data centers that power AI are to us what light bulbs were to lamplighters, pinsetters were to pinboys, and Netflix was to video rental stores. They have the power to destroy not just lives, but our entire way of life due to the scope and prevalence of AI. Lamplighters, pinsetters, and video store clerks were left unemployed by very specific advances in technology. Conversely, the adoption of AI is widespread, and it presents the realistic prospect of the elimination of most or all white collar positions within our lifetime. That is not crybabying. No, that is concern. That is an expression of the need to preserve humanity as a species in the face of cold, indefatigable, and absolutely soulless artificial minds of supreme efficiency, all of which can perform days or weeks of office work in minutes, or restore an image autonomously in less than a second.
I try to limit my usage of AI to a bare minimum to creating things that I myself wouldn't otherwise have the talent or skill to create by my own hands. So by searching the internet for images and with the combination of very detailed descriptions with those images I'm able to create what is in my mind to achieve something new and original.
Now I don't agree with the destructiveness that these centers cause on the communities or the environment around them and I know here recently in the area I live in there has been a 5 year moratorium put on any consideration to allowing any to be built. I also don't agree with the loss of jobs these centers cause and by what I see they screw things up more than they do any good.
Just an example of a couple of banners for the profile I've done. Now I ordinarily wouldn't have been able to do something like this on my own. I took the word design Jazz and Classic Rock and totally changed and transformed them into something new and original with a very descriptive addition to the image to produce both. Others I took and pieced together 3-5 images into a cohesive banner to produce an original piece using the help of the profile itself and a couple using the profile and AI combinations to get the desired results. After these are done I may not use AI again for several months, so my usage is very sporadic and limited.
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@♠︎John K Callender♠︎ you say you couldn't have done these things yourself, and yet these are things people have learned to do themselves before ai. it's not a lack of ability, it's choosing the quick, easy & convenient route (which often uses the stolen efforts of artist it was trained off without their permission, when it comes to any kind of image generation) over one that takes your time & effort. personally, I would encourage you to try learning these skills for yourself instead of relying on ai to do it for you, it's harder but you might find it more rewarding.
Whenever I do use an image off the web I make sure it is one that is free to use and not copyrighted and then expand on that image with a description of what and how I want it to look and what I want added to it. I am not artistic in the least except in my mind and that's where AI and being able to be descriptive helps to achieve the end result I am looking for. So I'll keep doing what I'm doing and still get the satisfaction in the end. It may take me a dozen edits but it gets me what I'm looking for in the end.
@♠︎John K Callender♠︎ the images you find may be free to use, but ai still uses the work of artists who never gave permission to train itself to do what it does. and no artists came out the womb being able to do what they do, they learned to do it over time, just like you can. if you want to choose the easy route and put your time into something that will never teach you anything of worth that's your prerogative, but it isn't because you can't it's because you don't want to. and people aren't crybabies for having a negative opinion of something that has caused harm to communities and artists who spent their life learning the skills they have for the sake of convenience and laziness for those who don't want to learn themselves or pay those who have to make something for them.
@aheartoffire1996 so sad people can't just change up existing layers to their liking at the very least, what stops you from learning just the fundamentals of html and trying to take a crack at it? Coding is overwhelming when you don't try to learn it AT ALLL
Ok so... even if the site might use AI to code (the only AI that really PISS ME OF is the fucking generative one, as an artist), at least this site is not a zombie like Spacehey (sorry - ? - for the slander)
@Tobiage This is the best response. AI has been used for decades now and it’s become a larger problem because greedy corporations are turning to lazy, quick-fix solutions. AI went from a handy tool to an unregulated parasite that’s infected the capitalistic brain.
AI can be useful for coding. But when a creator starts using AI for visual assets or, I dunno, MODERATION, it quickly becomes a shitfest. The entire purpose of AI should be doing the monotonous, un-creative, laborious tasks that help uplift human-made creations.
I don't get how some people are like, "AI is evil! Don't use it!!!" Well, do you remember Clippy from way back then? Clippy was freaking AI! And that monkey too (I can't think of his name). CPUs in video games are AI too. Hell, simply searching for something on Google is a form of AI usage. I guess I'm more lenient with the use of AI, depending on how it is used. The only AI I don't like is the ones that are created to basically trick people into thinking they are real.
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@90's scream queen I have a Light Phone, yes, thank you :)
@Very Scary Fairy✨ oh, awesome! i'm kinda jealous lol. unfortunately, i need a smartphone for work/as a medical device *sigh*
@90's scream queen Ohh, I understand. There are ways to make your smart phone more like a dumb phone! You can get rid of all of the unnecessary apps and go into your settings and change the display to black-and-white. It’s not ideal, but it’s something :)
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