I've been hearing about a lotta folks that gatekeep certain music artists to "Keep them Niche" but personally I don't think it's a good thing to do, since a lot of music artists work hard to create the songs we know and love. What are y'all's thoughts on this?
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Um, I really dislike it, but I can undersgand it !!!!!TO AN EXTENT!!!!! I believe that music should never be gatekept to a fan who actually wants to learn things and listen to new stuff, but i really hate seeing subcultures turn into a commodity to be bought and sold by people who dont care about it.. like I think I notice this got goth the most, and extreme metal as well, I really dont mind if the stuff I like gets more popular (id like for that to happen!) But I dont want the image of it to get popular, and then the actual core of it getting left behind which .... ultimately really waters down the whole scene
Personally, im the kind of person who talks about my favorite artists so much to the point it bothers people, so I don't really gatekeep, since its not really in my nature to do that😢 also scenes getting watered down id mainly blame inaccurate media portrayals like movies and TV shows for that more than anything else anyways
me personally i think they're quite annoying. just let people discover and enjoy music vro
those people are litelary crazy. this music could have been a masterpiece or beeing a musician could have beenthis artist biggest dream but you don't want to shere because they're "your niche"
also i have niche artistto shere. if anyone want to look their name is Fargo and there you have their bandcamp:
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@RayFromTheNet they're using the word "you" in a broader sense the same way someone says "one" to refer to a non-specific person. they're not literally talking about you specifically here.
anyway, gatekeeping prevents music, scenes, culture, etc from being commodified and repackaged into a form easier for the masses to digest because it's as divorced from the source/context as possible. or so it's supposed to. it's why you're more likely to hear tropical house or a trap instrumental in a commercial for american eagle jeans/a car commercial than something like death metal.
@ptolemy imma try to make what i was saying very very clear. people are allowed to LISTEN to whatever music they want to. trying to prevent people from listening to music they want to enjoy is a fruitless (and quite stupid) endeavor. there is a difference between saying "listening to [genre] does not mean you are a part of [subculture], because [subculture] is about a certain set of beliefs and values" and going "you aren't allowed to listen to [genre] because you don't know about their super hard to find album from 2003 that has no official releases on any platform."
no shit. that specifically is elitism. let me make what i said very very clear: having genuine interest in music doesn't require memorizing wikipedia pages and fun facts, or answering pop quiz questions about what color socks a guitar tech wore in 1979. that's not how it works. being that kind of snob does nothing to prevent grifters and corporations from watering down art forms and subcultures to make a quick buck before moving on to the next trend.
even if that was their intention as opposed to jerking themselves off over their ultra expensive/obscure/niche record collection, they're picking the wrong targets. discouraging the discovery/support of artists who are often already struggling to afford an honest living let alone create said art is antithetical to "keeping the scene alive," but to many of them, their ego boost from being perceived as a badass [subculture member/music listener] "club" member because they [barely] peaked in high school is evidently worth their favorite artists living out of their car even if their music is built to never see the light of day of mass consumption [see: harsh noise/power electronics]. snobs like that are best ignored, but most are deterred from embracing what they enjoy because some loser told them they're "too new?" don't get it twisted, nobody is disagreeing with you here whatsoever.
@ptolemy have you considered its very easy for me to assume otherwise when every response you give is condescending as fuck oh my god
I am filled with joy when people like the same weird shit I like, idc who the people are
if some tiktok dancer wants to bust a move to a Circles of Mania by Coil I am immediately living for it
Gatekeepers aren't just clowns. They are the entire circus
I could never. I feel like I don't shut up about artists I like, especially the ones who're less popular.
"what are you thinking about?" "uh.. uh.."
I think it's utterly stupid to gatekeep a band. Most non-popular artists can barely afford the money to keep making music, and all of these alt weridos want to keep them niche to have them as their whole personality. I get where they're coming from, because (as a mainstream pop music enjoyer) I have to go through WAR to get a single ticket, for them to later be super expensive, so by keeping them niche they can afford to go to more shows for a cheaper price. Those people, instead of wanting their favourite artist to live their dream, only want to make something their whole personality to seem different and unique, and they don't think about the musician at all.
I think it's more damaging to gatekeep artists work. they work hard to get their music out there and I think true supporters should be blasting from the rooftops if its truly their favorite band!! Exposure to new audiences gives them more music and inspiration!!
Gatekeeping is the stupidest thing ever cuz like anybody could do listen play all that whatever they want to at the end of the day. If you want your favorite artist to get big post about them! But I will say as a millennial I do gate keep a couple things like yeah this is our stuff nobody else could touch it but like that's stupid too cuz at the end of the day we're just the cooler older siblings now although technically I'm an only child so... k bye!
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I think ppl forget that elitism and gatekeeping aren’t the same thing most of the time. You can gatekeep and not be a piece of shit; it’s a necessary evil in some subcultures that have a close association with music. Ik a couple ppl said it already, but when it hits the mainstream and becomes a trend, people not only water down the music but usually the subcultures that come along with it.
I will always give recs if someone is genuinely interested in learning more about a genre of music. But I do gatekeep some artists I like, simply because I don’t want them to get popular for the wrong reason or to get into the hands of bad people and become their “anthem” (as u can see with a lot of eurodance artists & their stuff. It’s been completely associated with “save Europe” mfs online)
Gatekeeping for the sake of keeping an artist niche is extremely cringe, yeah. That said while I do see merit in the "our culture is not your costume" argument, it seems to go from gatekeeping to just being unnecessarily rude and unwelcoming way too fast just for the sake of someone's ego trip, because how dare this newcomer not be intimately familiar with every single detail raaaagh and stuff like that. Benefit of the doubt and all that, y'know?
I honestly understand both sides of the coin when it comes to gatekeeping. I do think It's a little unjust, especially when it comes to lesser-known artists. I hate how people start dogpiling others for making songs popular when the artists clearly deserve to get recognition. People have a bad issue with keeping things "niche" and it's hella annoying.
But I also understand gatekeeping to an extent. When it comes to certain types of music, it is made fun of almost half of the time, and it kinda ruins the vibe for people who genuinely enjoy it.
But overall, gatekeeping is pretty unnecessary and could hurt someone's career before it even flourishes.
it sucks cuz a lot of bands got their sound from an older band even if they were chasing trends, and a lot of posers are dumbfuck teens so it ain't worth the struggle (log off of twitter if u see posers online lmao)
I mean, on one hand I get it and on another I find it irritating. If someone has a small band they enjoy and gatekeep it, it's probably because that band has a small "club" of fans and the fan enjoys having that small group without people coming in and "ruining" it. I personally do not have a single friend who has a similar music taste so I do tell all my friends about the smaller bands I like in which they tell me it sounds like ass but ya know. Gatekeeping is irritating when you're trying to expand your taste and grow but having people who gatekeep it from you is annoying, but you can always find it on your own anyways.
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I think that gatekeeping is useless when it comes to music. Music is meant to be shared and enjoyed with everyone. I mainly see people trying to gatekeep more underground artists and it honestly makes me feel uneasy because this artist could possibly be struggling to get just an ounce of recognition and the little bit of fans they have are trying to keep them from growing. It's immature and kind of sad.
On one hand, excessive gatekeeping just blocks out newcomers who don't know much about the scene. On the other hand the right amount of gatekeeping prevent a bunch of creeps and just nasty people overall from sneaking into your scene, which is good. Some of yall take it too far and just use it an excuse to be annoying shitheads.
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