Thoughts on folks who gatekeep music?

I've been hearing about a lotta folks that gatekeep certain music artists to "Keep them Niche" but personally I don't think it's a good thing to do, since a lot of music artists work hard to create the songs we know and love. What are y'all's thoughts on this?

I hate it obviously, that's like rooting for someone's downfall. 

Goth girl ticktok influencers wearing the uniform purely for clout and have barely listened to even a Bauhaus record and do nothing but trendy dances to modern popular 10 second clips of popular trash songs that have nothing to do with the life. 

Says enough to me that gatekeeping is ABSURDLY neccisary. But it can be done without direct cruel intent.  

I'm not sure about this particular phenomenon. However, growing up on punk music and going to punk shows my whole life has given me a different perspective on gatekeeping.

IDGAF about people just starting out listening to punk. That's cool. We all started out listening to some band we don't love like we used to. We all eventually learn what is and isn't acceptable within a scene.

Conservative "punks" pretending that they're one of us is a decent enough reason to gatekeep in my opinion. Sometimes music is political and those politics are woven into the scene. They need to be jeered at. They need to be ostracized. They are attempting to infiltrate the community with their toxic ideology. It's a core tenant of their political stance to put themselves into scenes they aren't welcome in (due to their own obnoxious views) and play the victim when it's made clear they don't belong. That won't work in the punk scene. 

I used to despise such behavior but after seeing so many tourists ruining entire genres, I understand better. I guess there needs to be a balance where gatekeeping helps something remain the same without detracting newcomers. 

@RayFromTheNet
Nah i know full well people can enjoy the products of any niche community they desire without being part of it, and nothing i said blocks them from doing as much, they are irrelevant to anything said so far. But now that they have been brought up, yes, those people are absolutely valid. 
They arent attempting to represent anything, so they are not of any concern to anyone. 
 
As for those making a trend out of a culture in the nature we have already spoken about, there are the values yes,
but not even necessarily has to be that. just an understanding of the ingredients and history and why they are there and their associations. 
A respect for the effort of its fore bearers and its current dedicated constituents. 
In that sense, you can have all sorts of values, long as your not attempting to shift the community in some sort of way in that direction. Your values being yours alone. 
But yeah the history and dedication and common taste and community built upon those foundations are not a costume,
and its that costume that becomes the issue when its treated as near disposable, or as just a paint job. 

If you just a person with a Xmal Dautchland album you really enjoy well, you arent relevant to that situation. Continue to enjoy your record, hypothetical person. :P. 

@RayFromTheNet
not a word there was about you. You misunderstand. 
"hypothetical person" means the hypothetical person in the discussion we are talking about. 
That means neither me or you. 

Sometimes, gatekeeper is necessary especially in the time like this where larpers always come and ruined everything!

straight idiots

Music is for all of us. Gatekeepers suck the sweat off of dead men's testicles. 

We were ALL 'new' at listening to music once, I don't care if someone is a deep fan or a casual. If you like a song, then PLAY IT!

And having been a working musician, if some 'fan' was declining to spread the word, I be so massively pissed! Working in music is a STRUGGLE, everyone wants to rip you off, last thing you need is 'fans' making it harder

𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗜𝗧𝗬 wrote:
@SavageReaper666 Personally I really despise calling someone a larper, I think it just became a buzzword that is never used correctly. However I know exactly what you were trying to say and I understand your argument. I may not agree with it but I can understand why someone would gatekeep from folks who wouldn't even consume the media properly

I know that the word "larpers" can be a buzzword and people dont know how to use it correctly because let say that their not so smart. Ive seen too many poseurs (if I really want to be harsh and honest lol) from counter culture to gaming to guitar forum to goth (you can thank TikTok for that) to the point that you gonna have to need gatekeeping. otherwise, it would be a mess to clean up!

My opinion is that music should not be gatekept. Gatekeeping music is not only unnecessary but actively brings down the artist that is being gatekept. Subcultures though, those should be gatekept to an extent. If someone is willing to research the history, uphold the subcultures values, and listen to the music, they shouldn't be gatekept, but someone who is only interested in the subculture for the "aesthetic" or "style" and just wants to seem cool they should be gatekept.